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ArticleWorld journal of urology2025

From laser-on time to lithotripsy duration: improving the prediction of lithotripsy duration with 'Kidney Stone Calculator' using artificial intelligence.

Frédéric Panthier, Laurent Berthe, Chady Ghnatios, Francisco Chinesta, Stessy Kutchukian, Steeve Doizi, François Audenet, Laurent Yonneau, Thierry Lebret, Marc-Olivier Timsit and 7 more

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Article in World journal of urology, 2025. The graph could read no effect estimate from its abstract, so it casts no vote on the map. Cited by 2 papers.

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3 · Its place in the literature

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2 citing papers in PubMed.

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4 · The record

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5 · Who and what money

Authors and funding

17 authors.

Frédéric PanthierDepartment of Urology, Westmoreland Street Hospital, and Clinical Microbiology, UCLH NHS Foundation Trust, London, UK. fredericpanthier@gmail.com.
Laurent BerthePIMM, UMR 8006 CNRS-Arts et Métiers ParisTech, 151 bd de l'Hôpital, 75013, Paris, France.
Chady GhnatiosEndourology Technology Section of European Association of Urology (EAU), Arnhem, The Netherlands.
Francisco ChinestaPIMM, UMR 8006 CNRS-Arts et Métiers ParisTech, 151 bd de l'Hôpital, 75013, Paris, France.
Stessy KutchukianService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Steeve DoiziService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
François AudenetService d'Urologie, APHP-centre, Hôpital Européen Georges Pompidou, Université Paris Cité, 20 rue Leblanc, 75015, Paris, France.
Laurent YonneauHôpital Foch, Université Versailles Saint-Quentin-Service d'Urologie, 40 rue Worth, 92150, Suresnes, France.
Thierry LebretHôpital Foch, Université Versailles Saint-Quentin-Service d'Urologie, 40 rue Worth, 92150, Suresnes, France.
Marc-Olivier TimsitService d'Urologie, APHP-centre, Hôpital Européen Georges Pompidou, Université Paris Cité, 20 rue Leblanc, 75015, Paris, France.
Arnaud MejeanService d'Urologie, APHP-centre, Hôpital Européen Georges Pompidou, Université Paris Cité, 20 rue Leblanc, 75015, Paris, France.
Luigi CandelaService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Catalina SolanoService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Mariela CorralesService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Marie ChicaudService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Olivier TraxerService d'Urologie, Assistance-Publique Hôpitaux de Paris, Hôpital Tenon, Sorbonne Université, 75020, Paris, France.
Daron SmithDepartment of Urology, Westmoreland Street Hospital, and Clinical Microbiology, UCLH NHS Foundation Trust, London, UK.

Funding

Association Française d'Urologie 2024European Association of Urology 2023
6 · The paper itself

Abstract

introduction"Kidney Stone Calculator" (KSC) helps to plan flexible ureteroscopy, providing the stone volume (SV) and an estimated duration of laser lithotripsy (eLD). eLD is calculated from in vitro ablation rates and SV. KSC's accuracy has been demonstrated with a mean difference between eLD and effective LD (EfLD) of 18.8%. We aimed to reduce the eLD-efLD difference using Machine Learning (ML).

methodsFrom the prospective multicenter KSC database, demographic and peri-operative data were anonymously extracted: SV, stone location, maximum density, anatomy, surgical expertise, ureteral access sheath, basket use, laser source, fiber diameter and settings, eLD and efLD. After normalization and splitting (training (80%), test (20%)), significant variables influencing the difference between eLD and efLD were selected through multiple linear regression (MLR). Six types of ML models were subsequently evaluated to minimize the mean absolute error (MAE) between eLD and efLD on the test group.

results125 patients were included. After normalization and MLR, MAE were significantly influenced by 14 variables (including diverticulum location, surgical expertise, laser sources, laser fiber diameters, 5 Hz frequency, 1.5 J pulse energy and eLD). eLD had the greatest positive impact on the eLD-efLD difference (2.45 (2.16-2.73), p < 0.0001)). Above the various tested ML models, the Bayesian "Automatic-Relevance-Determination" and Dense Neural Networks respectively presented the lowest and highest MAE on the test group (3.9% and 6.8%). Results did not differ among models overall (p = 0.93) and two by two.

conclusionThe difference between KSC's eLD and efLD can be five-fold reduced using ML and Artificial Intelligence, including clinically impactful factors such as the surgical technique or expertise. A clinical inference could help to externally validate our findings.

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Artificial IntelligenceKidney CalculiLithotripsy, LaserMachine LearningAdultAgedFemaleHumansMaleMiddle AgedProspective StudiesTime FactorsUreteroscopyFlexible ureteroscopyHolmium:YAGKidney Stone CalculatorLaserLithotripsyPulsed-Thulium:YAGSurgical planningThulium Fiber Laser

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