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ArticleJournal of general internal medicine2011

Now what should I do? Primary care physicians' responses to older adults expressing thoughts of suicide.

Steven D Vannoy, Ming Tai-Seale, Paul Duberstein, Laura J Eaton, Mary Ann Cook

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Article in Journal of general internal medicine, 2011. The graph could read no effect estimate from its abstract, so it casts no vote on the map. It is linked to trial NCT06018285 (Stepped Approach to Reducing Risk of Suicide in Primary Care), which is not on this map. Cited by 19 papers, 2 of them syntheses that pooled it.

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1 · What the graph read from it

What it found

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2 · The registry

The trial behind it

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NCT06018285 narecruitingnot on this mapstarted 2023, after this paper: background citation

Stepped Approach to Reducing Risk of Suicide in Primary Care

TypeinterventionalSponsorCynthia FontanellaRan2023 to 2027Enrolled2,572ConditionsSuicidal Ideation, Suicide, Attempted, Suicide PreventionArmsStepped Approach to Reducing Risk of Suicide in Primary Care
3 · Its place in the literature

Who cites it

19 citing papers in PubMed, 2 syntheses or guidelines pooled it.

  1. Older Patients' Verbal Communication in Interactions With Primary Care Staff: A Qualitative Systematic Review and Meta-Ethnography.Health expectations : an international journal of public participation in health care and health policy · 2025
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  8. Attitudes and opinions towards suicidality in professionals working with oncology patients: results from an online survey.Supportive care in cancer : official journal of the Multinational Association of Supportive Care in Cancer · 2022
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  9. Overcoming Stigma: A Novel Curriculum for Teaching Medical Students about Suicide.Academic psychiatry : the journal of the American Association of Directors of Psychiatric Residency Training and the Association for Academic Psychiatry · 2021
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  12. Addressing Suicide Risk According to Different Healthcare Professionals in Spain: A Qualitative Study.International journal of environmental research and public health · 2018
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  16. National pathways for suicide prevention and health services research.American journal of preventive medicine · 2014
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  19. Addressing suicidality in primary care settings.Current psychiatry reports · 2012
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4 · The record

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5 · Who and what money

Authors and funding

5 authors.

Steven D VannoyDepartment of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, University of Washington, 1959 NE Pacific St, BOX 356560, Seattle, WA 98195-6560, USA. svannoy@uw.edu
Ming Tai-Seale
Paul Duberstein
Laura J Eaton
Mary Ann Cook

Funding

Institute for Translational Health Science (KL2)KL2RR025015 · NCRR · UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON · PI DISIS, MARY L. · 2007 to 2011
$9.3M
Economic Analysis of Depression Treatment ProcessK01MH001935 · NIMH · TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY HEALTH SCIENCE CTR · PI TAI-SEALE, MING · 2002 to 2006
$745k
LLD Course & Treatment Decisions: Psychosocial InfluencesK24MH072712 · NIMH · UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER · PI DUBERSTEIN, PAUL R · 2006 to 2010
$722k
ASSESSMENT OF DOCTOR ELDERLY PATIENT ENCOUNTERSR44AG015737 · NIA · JVC RADIOLOGY AND MEDICAL ANALYSIS · PI COOK, MARY A · 1998 to 2000
$226k
NCRR NIH HHS KL2 RR025015NCRR NIH HHS KL2RR025015NIA NIH HHS AG15737NIMH NIH HHS K01 MH001935NIMH NIH HHS K24 MH072712NIMH NIH HHS K24MH072712NIMH NIH HHS MH01935
6 · The paper itself

Abstract

backgroundMany older adults who die by suicide have had recent contact with a primary care physician. As the risk-assessment and referral process for suicide is not readily comparable to procedures for other high-risk behaviors, it is important to identify areas in need of quality improvement (QI).

objectiveIdentify patterns in physician-patient communication regarding suicide to inform QI interventions.

designQualitative thematic analysis of video-taped clinical encounters in which suicide was discussed.

participantsAdult primary care patients (n = 385) 65 years and older and their primary care physicians.

resultsMental health was discussed in 22% of encounters (n = 85), with suicide content found in less than 2% (n = 6). Three patterns of conversation were characterized: (1) Arguing that "Life's Not That Bad." In this scenario, the physician strives to convince the patient that suicide is unwarranted, which results in mutual fatigue and discouragement. (2) "Engaging in Chitchat." Here the physician addresses psychosocial matters in a seemingly aimless manner with no clear therapeutic goal. This results in a superficial and misleading connection that buries meaningful risk assessment amidst small talk. (3) "Identify, assess, and…?" This pattern is characterized by acknowledging distress, communicating concern, eliciting information, and making treatment suggestions, but lacks clearly articulated treatment planning or structured follow-up.

conclusionsThe physicians in this sample recognized and implicitly acknowledged suicide risk in their older patients, but all seemed unable to go beyond mere assessment. The absence of clearly articulated treatment plans may reflect a lack of a coherent framework for managing suicide risk, insufficient clinical skills, and availability of mental health specialty support required to address suicide risk effectively. To respond to suicide's numerous challenges to the primary care delivery system, QI strategies will require changes to physician education and may require enhancing practice support.

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Attitude of Health PersonnelPhysician-Patient RelationsSuicidal IdeationSuicide PreventionAgedAged, 80 and overHumansOffice VisitsPhysicians, Primary CareSuicideVideo Recording

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PMID21541796
PMCPMC3157512

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